This will take place in late June for pups due in late August or early September and ready late October or early November. I know, I know! You have seen Ottis and he is a little guy! We are working on reaching a mini size doodle to add to our program. When you breed a mom in her 40's with a little one pups will be all over the place. You DO NOT get pups that range in the middle. This is a sales tactic to sell dogs. I won't do that to you! Our goal is to always be transparent and current with the known genetics and size knowledge. Some will be mom's size in the 40 lb range and some will be a little larger than Ottis up to mom's size. Our goal is for the 30 lb range for the future. Our best guesses will be around the 7/8 week range. This can still change as they grow so it is only an estimation. We will keep 1 or 2 of the smallest females from this pairing. Ottis is around 11 lbs.